The Spaghetti Incident?

The Spaghetti Incident?

November 18, 1993 (Uzi Suicide/Geffen)

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Track list:

1. Since I Don't Have You (The Skyliners cover, 1959)
2. New Rose (The Damned cover)
3. Down on the Farm (U.K. Subs cover)
4. Human Being (The New York Dolls cover)
5. Raw Power (The Stooges cover)
6. Ain't It Fun (The Dead Boys cover)
7. Buick Makane/Big Dumb Sex (T-Rex cover/Soundgarden cover)
8. Hair of the Dog (Nazareth cover)
9. Attitude (The Misfits cover)
10. Black Leather (The Professionals cover)
11. You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory (Johnny Thunders cover)
12. I Don't Care About You (Fear cover)
13. Look At Your Game Girl (Charles Manson cover)

Released as a Vinyl LP, Cassette Tape, and CD.

The Spaghetti Incident? US-only limited edition 12-track Orange vinyl LP, featuring cover versions of classic tracks, housed in 'spaghetti' picture sleeve.  Released in the US 1993.  This album is valued at $74.00 (Vinyl LP).
[Image same as above]   The Spaghetti Incident? 12-track vinyl LP, featuring cover versions of classic tracks, housed in 'spaghetti' picture sleeve.  Released in the United Kingdom 1993.  This album is valued at $37.00 (Vinyl LP).
[Image same as above]   The Spaghetti Incident? 12-track vinyl LP, featuring cover versions of classic tracks, housed in 'spaghetti' picture sleeve.  Released in the Netherlands 1993.  This album is valued at $15.00 (Vinyl LP).
[Image same as above]   The Spaghetti Incident? 12-track vinyl LP, featuring cover versions of classic tracks, housed in 'spaghetti' picture sleeve.  Released in Columbia 1993.  This album is valued at $55.00 (Vinyl LP).
[Image same as above]   The Spaghetti Incident? 12-track vinyl LP, featuring cover versions of classic tracks, housed in 'spaghetti' picture sleeve.  Released in Brazil 1993.  This album is valued at $55.00 (Vinyl LP).
[Image same as above]   The Spaghetti Incident? 12-track vinyl LP, featuring cover versions of classic tracks, housed in 'spaghetti' picture sleeve.  Released in Venezuela 1993.  This album is valued at $33.00 (Vinyl LP).
The Spaghetti Incident? 12-track Picture CD, featuring cover versions of classic tracks, housed in 'spaghetti' picture sleeve.  Released worldwide 1993.  This album is valued at $15.00 (CD).
  The Spaghetti Incident? 12-track Picture CD, featuring cover versions of classic tracks, housed in 'spaghetti' picture sleeve with obi strip.  Released in Japan 1993.  This album is valued at $47.00 (CD).
  The Spaghetti Incident? 12-track Picture CD, featuring cover versions of classic tracks, housed in 'spaghetti' picture sleeve with obi strip.  Released in Taiwan 1993.  This album is valued at $35.00 (CD).
[No image available]   The Spaghetti Incident? Gold Tour Picture CD released in Australia 1995. Includes facsimile autographs on both the CD and picture sleeve.  This album is valued at $50.00 (CD).

Promotional Material

 

Jukebox Promo 7" vinyl released 1993 in the United Kingdom.  This item is valued at $50.00 (Vinyl LP).
The Spaghetti Incident? Promo in store play 15-track Cassette Sampler includes extra tracks by Aerosmith, Nirvana, Run DMC, Megadeth, Primus, and Cher with Beavis & Butthead inside a “Dangerous” postcard picture sleeve.  Issued only to record stores.  Released 1994.  This album is valued at $70.00 (Cassette).
The Spaghetti Incident? Press pack includes 6-pages of info, "The History", & "The Albums" plus group photo.  Only issued to the media.  Released in 1993.  This item is valued at $50.00.
MCA label promo-only press pack includes 3-page press release, fact sheets for 'Since I Don't Have You' and 'The Spaghetti Incident' both in German text and a 6x4" black and white photograph.  Issued only to the media.  Released in Germany 1994.  This item is valued at $70.00.
The Spaghetti Incident? 11-page Press Pack includes info on "The Songs & Their Original Artists" and two 10x8" promo live photos.  Issued only to the media.  Released in 2000.  This item is valued at $80.00.
[No image available] The Spaghetti Incident? Promo oversized display metal tin, "Spaghetti" picture label with "Ingredients".  Released 2000 in Canada.  This item is valued at $90.00.
The Spaghetti Incident? fully working FM transistor radio approximately 2" diameter and 5" tall, features the spaghetti artwork as used for the album - comes complete with a new battery.  Released in the United Kingdom 1994.  This item is valued at $20.00.

Hit Single

 

Ain't It Fun 1-track CD single.  A cover version originally written and performed by the 'Dead Boys' and taken from the 'Spaghetti Incident?' album. Housed inside a custom title stickered CD album case with custom black back insert.  This album is valued at $15.00 (CD).

The Album and Music

 

This is the famous spaghetti incident that was actually a photo shoot for a flyer. 

The rumor is that it occurred while they were touring the club circuit around 1985-1986.

The Spaghetti Incident? is a punk cover album of musical influences the band had planned on recording in 1988 which includes the 1958 Skyliners cover ‘Since I Don’t Have You’, the only video off the album.  The title, "The Spaghetti Incident?" is in reference to ex-Guns drummer  Steven Adler.  Adler had sued the band several times, either for royalties not paid to him for the tracks he played on, or for the royalties he had not received since he had been kicked out of the band.  In a 1992 case, Adler tried to prove to the court how "mean" all of the band members had treated him, and he told the court about the The Spaghetti Incident.  "Before a show the band had dinner together, and one of the members had eaten Adler's spaghetti.  When Adler asked who had eaten his spaghetti, he was met with laughter."   Part of the later verdict was that nothing of the ruling was to be disclosed, but part of this court decision was used in a 1997 court case again, showing the settlement with Adler (he received a total sum of $1.5 million),  and showing the total profit the band had made in 7 years (more than 650 million dollars), and also showing that Axl Rose was the true owner of the band's name.  At the release of the album, the band was not allowed by court order to explain the title of the album.

Guns N' Roses has never released an album without fanfare or controversy and The Spaghetti Incident? is no exception.  Despite protests from Rose's bandmates, an unadvertised cover of Charles Manson's song "Look At Your Game, Girl" was included on the album at his request. The CD release gave no track number to the song - it could only be found by listening through the dead air left after the last documented track on the album.  Industry sources said that Manson's royalties could amount to $62,000 for every million copes of TSI? that were sold.  Axl planned to donate the profits from having that song on the release to an environmental group that helps protect wildlife and the oceans.  According to court rulings, all royalties due Manson in fact went to Bartek Frykowski, the son of Wojiciech Frykowski who was one of seven victims of the 1969 Manson family murder rampage in Los Angeles.  Consequently, the album only sold 500,000 copies making the royalties to Bartek Frykowski around $31,000.

The Use Your Illusion world tour saw Rose wearing "Charlie Don't Surf" t-shirts, emblazoned with Charles Manson's face - a move Rose claimed to be satirical of Manson, but which many considered to be inappropriate.  In fact, "Charlie don't surf" is a quote from the movie Apocalypse Now. Lieutenant Colonel Bill Kilgore (played by Robert Duvall) wants to go surfing on a beach held by the Vietnamese.  He orders his men to take the beach and explains that "Charlie [i.e. the Viet Cong] don't surf!"  The phrase was also borrowed by The Clash, who used it as a song title on the album Sandinista.

Axl heard his brother's band playing the song and recorded it before he knew who wrote it.  "It's about a woman who has thrown things away.  She thinks she's gaining love but basically she's gaining sadness." - Axl.  In early 2000, Rose said that he would remove "Look At Your Game, Girl" from re-issues of the album, citing that critics and popular media misinterpreted his interest in Manson and that a misunderstood public no longer deserved to hear it. However, as of 2006, the song is still present on the album.

The Spaghetti Incident? was recorded in the same studio, but at different times because the other band members did not wish to work with Axl.  The band was close to breaking up during this time, but still managed to complete the final leg of the Use Your Illusion tour, Skin N' Bones, before recording the album in 1993.